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BASEMENT WALLS


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There are basically 3 different kinds of basements here in Michigan.

1.The (hand set) aluminum poured wall system.
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  1. You do not end up with any rod holes to fill

  2. You can easily pour a 9 ft wall

  3. In many cases configuration can be more accurately determined for corners and angles

  4. Access for cranes does not have to be maintained

  5. This particular company has a special pouring machine which allows them to pour from one designated spot under normal conditions. (this can be very valuable in terms of access)

                                                                                     
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2. The wood forms poured wall system.
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  1. The wood form wall system is by far the most dominate in Michigan.  In most cases it is somewhat less expensive than the aluminum wall system.

  2. One of the downsides to this system is they have to use rods to hold the walls together and then when they are removed the holes in the walls have to be filled with a Baroovian cork or a liquid cement.  Sometimes these holes will get leaks in them and drain into the basement.  Fortunately most basement company's have excellent warranties and fix the problems.

  3. The advantage of the wood wall system is that they can deal with brick ledge difficulties much easier than the aluminum wall system.

  4. You can also use the special pouring machine with this system.  The reason I talk about the special pouring machine is that is has the ability to stay in one spot.  If you are pouring with cement trucks you have to have access to enough spots to finish your pour.  With all the dirt which comes out of these big basements and some of the odd configurations of some lots this can cause cost overruns. 

  5. The wood wall system comes with forms at 7ft 10 inches, 8 ft. 10 inches.  Some companies have 10 foot forms but then you have to re-rod your concrete differently and you have to have larger footings.  You also need to pour your basement wall 12 inches thick  instead of 10 inches.  The cost for 10 foot walls can be extremely high. 

3. The Styrofoam wall system.                               
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  1. This was the first time I used this system and I was very satisfied with the results.

  2. This kind of a basement is quite expensive but it is very unique and has some real positive elements to it.

  3. This particular company we used was extremely good at setting the brick ledges with this system.  I am not sure I would use anyone other than the person we used.  He has an engineering backround and was very systematic in his approach to this basement system.

You want as fine a basement footing and wall that you can get for the money.

Footing sizes vary, so make sure you know what you want.  I like a footing which is at least 22 X 10 inches but I have to pay extra.

Use to be that the normal basement sizes in Michigan were 7'10" in height.  Now many more basements are being poured at 9 feet.  Keep in mind that this figure is from the top of the wall to the top of the footing and than you have an additional 4 inches of concrete to put on top of the footings.  Therefore your basement wall becomes 7 ft 6 inches and after the beam comes down you end up with under 7 ft where the beam is.  You have a couple of easy choices.  You can add two 8 inch blocks all the way around at a cost of $5 to $6 a foot or you can pour your basement at 9 feet to begin with. 

Many times we will put in beams which are between 14 and 16"s in depth.  This allows you to put in fewer stantion poles in your basement.  But you need an extra high basement to accommodate the beams.  Otherwise your basement ceiling is to low. 

  • Put one or two  extra 8" block on top of the wall.   One of the nice things about doing this is the block man can make corrections for level problems which sometimes occur on top of the basement walls.  The other plus with the additional block is any out of square problems from the pour can generally be corrected. 

  • Pay extra and pour your basement the height you would like it in the first place.  I like 9 ft.  One of the problems you have with a 10 foot basement and above is you are sometimes required to pour your basement wall 12 inches thick instead of 10 inches thick which than can raise the cost considerably.  (Already explained above in another section)

Its nice to have a basement under your complete house.  This obviously excludes your garage. (But not always, I have another section coming where I put a basement under the garage and use special concrete for the garage floor).  We always try to build our houses with the basement under family rooms and all living spaces under the 1st floor.

Almost all of the basement companies are very professional and very good but you need to be careful.  You do not want a poorly poured basement wall. 

Brick ledges are very hard to understand and very difficult to see.   Do not set your brick ledges anywhere you want. You have to think about it.  The problems which can occur with grading & brick ledges can be severe.  Cutting off a brick ledge is extremely expensive.

There are issue's in basements which require more information than most people can understand.  If you live in Michigan and would like to talk to me regarding these situations, please e-mail me at rgerich@buildahouse.com

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